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Emynona Noenef:

"fénéon reconfigured"

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Works & Days

of the fenéon collective

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Anonyme Anatomized

 

Subject: Emynona Noenef

 

FYI . . . new edition . . . coming out in 2012 from Say It with Stones Press.

 

Mark Scroggins on the feneon collective:
http://kulturindustrie.blogspot.com/2010/12/feneon-book.html

John Latta's review:
http://isola-di-rifiuti.blogspot.com/2010/11/works-and-days-of-feneon-collective.html

 

Comments (Show all 122)

nicholasiainmanning@... said

at 4:58 pm on Dec 22, 2010


The so-called "misanthropic French tradition" then is perhaps too strong a formulation. I would rather talk of humanism than misanthropism. Perhaps we should rather go back as far as Montaigne, in a sort of French humanist tradition of "we're all mere absurd mortals" and "chaque homme porte la forme entière de la condition humaine".

This is not what Baudelaire ever says, or thinks. In the Baudelairian model, the flâneur is able to observe events and society precisely because, with his slow cool gait, he is outside of the actions of that society. In brief the flaneur is a direct but abstracted and thus non-implicated witness. Fénéon is not a witness, but rather a compiler. This is a very important change to the paradigm. It firstly de-romanticizes somewhat the events depicted - divorcing them from their powerful poet subject - and gives them thus their haunting, almost "dead" and unfeeling quality.

If the flâneur is the image of a nascent modernity, as has so often been said, the compiler must be the image of a different modernity altogether, closer to the benjaminian obsession with collection and collation than the power of a witnessing subject.

But then the real paradox of course to Works and Days is that, if the original Fénéon takes out the poetic subject as powerful witness to replace him with the collector and compiler, we have here a suite of faits divers which are entirely about poetic personas: about poets. A desubjectivizing mode combined with subjectivizing content? Perhaps this is one way of looking at this intriguing textual object.

I hope these initial thoughts are comprehensible, written after midnight on a snowy Paris night.
Nicholas

John said

at 3:01 am on Dec 23, 2010

Agreed: "the French misanthropic tradition" is too sweeping a phrase. Was trying to point to that particular French misanthropic tradition stemming from Baudelaire -- but even that is too strong. Was trying to distinguish Baudelaire and Fénéon from Reznikoff, and ally the f.c.'s tone more closely with Baudelaire and Fénéon.

Struck by your characterization of the flâneur as an observer of events from outside of the actions of society -- an impossibility, but not inaccurate, I don't think, to how the pre-Heisenbergian flâneur may have conceived his practice. Struck because it chimes with Kenner's observation that the dominant stance of post-Enlightenment lyric became that of "a consciousness observing," which constituted a shift from the earlier lyric stance of "a man talking."

Your distinction between observing and compiling is useful. The f.c. neither observes nor compiles; the f.c. writes fiction, except, presumably, when it quotes reactions from some of the satirized poets, which, to me, may be the highlights of the FD's. The reactions from "wounded" LANGUAGE-ists and Flarf-ians proves (presuming that they're not themselves fictional) that the FD's are the act of a person talking to other people. The harrumphy reactions of wounded poets might be the most effective satire in the piece.

Patrick Herron said

at 10:17 am on Jan 28, 2011

A Vertovian poetics, poets as the constructors of a new archive. "A desubjectivizing mode combined with subjectivizing content? Perhaps this is one way of looking at this intriguing textual object." Yes, I like this very much. It is the collection of subjectivizing machineries (mass media, internet content providers, writers, universities, etc.) that construct subjectivities. To get in the subjectivity game you can't be the solitary individual because you're subject to these massive distributed apparatuses. I mean, you can be the individual, but you better also be engaged in Benjamin's aforementioned obsession: compiling and collating. But even that's not enough. The way things are compiled and collated must diverge from the ways current institutional machineries do it. Then, finally, you can get to manifestation, appearance, painting an (inter)face on the new archival beast being constructed. But even when that happens, the face of the individual painted on the new collective is likely to be detrimental, defenestrating. For example, wikileaks is certainly a new archive, a new means, but the face of the individual painted on the collective effort has served the detractors and enforcers. That this Feneon is a collective is what I find attractive.

As for categorical distinctions made between fact and fiction here, the archive delivers the fact of its own existence. Its delivery is a truth. If a writerly political movement of the 21st century can't get to that, it can't get to anything at all. Because if you can't pump out the memes you'll leave it to the existing systems. But raising another point, I would say that what we call collection IS an act of authorship, of writing, of creation, a very post-Heisenbergian construction.

Fuck flarf. Flow their tears. Oh just look at the archive they created. "Well OK I got my method from that guy but he isn't on the team, so I'll name myself as the creator."

dhadbawnik@gmail.com said

at 5:20 pm on Dec 22, 2010

and since i meant to keep this to the maximum post length and spilled over a bit, i might as well finish my thought: what bolano's work says (to me) -- and it starts off being very funny with the lampooning of various avant-garde poetry groups in the savage detectives, but it's decidedly not funny by the time you get to nazi literature in the americas and 2666 -- is that aesthetics inform politics and vice versa. you can't separate them out. what populates bolano's texts? exiles. serial killers. intellectuals. artists. hacked-up bodies. and aesthetic choices that on the one hand seem utterly unimportant, and on the other ruin lives and destroy friendships. it's no accident that kent - a poet who has done a lot of work in latin american poetry - would be involved in a project (like FD) that seems to express a longing for that sort of vital discourse. as has been said above, i don't think it's a call to start writing overt political poetry. it's a call to acknowledge and confront how politicized poetry _already is_. what am i talking about? brooks mentioned andy warhol a couple dozen posts back, and how problematic his aesthetic choices have turned out to be. well, we now have an entire poetic movement emulating and incorporating those choices. i'm not going to say that every single writer and work produced thereby is inherently bad, or even compromised. but it's long past time that the american avant-garde looked itself in the mirror and asked if its strategies themselves have been compromised.

also, it's no secret that american poets operate in a passive-aggressive 'community' in which everyone seems to agree politically - it was hard to find poets who were 'for' the war, remember? - but in reality most are split into factions that have very little to actually say to one another, politically or aesthetically. the FD imagines an alternate universe, violent and episodic as a slapstick pantomime circa 1800 drury lane -- that brings the aggression to the surface...

Chris Daniels said

at 7:32 pm on Dec 22, 2010

perhaps not for the war, but decidedly for a system that has given rise to the war

political discourse in the USA has been so completely cretinized that many of the poets i've been in contact with have no way to get past the ideology of the system in which we exist - they simply do not think about it, or ideology is something that can be lived without, as if that were possible!

one result of this is the following: instead of looking at war as a management strategy within a societal system, many fall back on ethics, and do not realize that the ethics they espouse are part of the ideology they cannot see clearly

sadly, for many, "politics" is the nastiest four-letter-word of all

yes, i agree: for me, politics and aesthetics are in a dialectical relationship, like form and content - the one informs and can sometimes alter the other, but neither govern...

Chris Daniels said

at 7:34 pm on Dec 22, 2010

this is not to say that ethics are useless per se, of course!

dhadbawnik@gmail.com said

at 9:24 pm on Dec 22, 2010

chris--

i agree; i mean, there's a superficial level of agreement, with very little scrutiny of one's own implication vis-a-vis class, race, gender, one's place in the socio-economic chain... and by extension one's poetic cohorts of whatever stripe, the work being produced and the response generated

i was thinking about it earlier -- what's happened to substantive disagreements over how to approach war aesthetically, like duncan and levertov; the u.s. is involved in half a dozen wars. o for either one of those voices today!

Freind@rowan.edu said

at 9:38 pm on Dec 22, 2010


I don't know -- I love Levertov, but I think her anti-war poems are atrocious. It's really hard to write a good political poem. And in any event, there aren't a whole lot of Americans complaining about US militarism.

micahjrobbins@gmail.com said

at 5:33 pm on Dec 22, 2010

David,

Your post makes me think: there seems to be a fundamental rift between what poets DO and what revolutionaries, or terrorists, or agents of the state DO (i.e., those actors who enact foundational socio-cultural/juridico-political change). That is, poets write and publish and gossip and slander and cause stirs etc., while those others engage in direct, immediately physical acts that alternately upset/maintain the status quo. The revolutionary stages a coup; the terrorist brings fire to his polemic; the state agent imprisons the dissident; the poet fires off a missive that may send ripples through the poetry community, but the community has become so marginal that the event doesn't even warrant a faits divers in the pages of any of our local newspapers. Perhaps this marginality is tied to a lack of physical action. The students in the streets of London, some of whom are poets, warrant a faits divers (more, in fact) precisely because their bodies seized the Conservative Party HQ. Allen Ginsberg, Norman Mailer, Robert Lowell and others warranted a faits divers precisely because they threw their bodies into the mix at the Pentagon. Dante took up his sword at Campaldino. Burroughs rolled drunks in NYC. Kent Johnson stood with the Sandinistas. Brooks faced down the Chicago PD reenacting the 1968 Democratic National Convention riots. David Hadbawnik blackened an eye with a left hook during a scuffle in the hockey rink. It is in part, I would argue, the immediate contact with these dangers and violences that allow these writers to channel a sense of political urgency through their work (it's also what enables them to piss so many people off). It's for this reason that I find myself attracted to Fork-Face as the hero of this work. The homeless poet jumping from the shadows to attack M. Simic with splendid brutality. 54 biting wounds to remind the opposition that states are being altered in physical ways that leave a real and lasting legacy.

In haste . . .

Chris Daniels said

at 7:40 pm on Dec 22, 2010

interesting, micah

the relationship between art and politics is pretty thorny...

dhadbawnik@gmail.com said

at 9:48 pm on Dec 22, 2010

yes, interesting, and a lot of complicated thoughts, nothing too articulate at the moment. i just keep thinking about bolano -- living real political trouble in mexico and chile; this is a real situation for many artists not living in the u.s., and i have to wonder if it's a coincidence that the fiercest resistance to economic 'austerity' is coming in countries where there is not such a 'fundamental rift' .... where politics and aesthetics are still in a very visible dialectical relationship, as chris would say. on the imaginative plane, everything is of equal importance. that's the only way i know how to say it right now. as di prima once wrote, you can't not have a poetics. the revolutionary letters are not part of what she considers her 'poetry' -- it is a conscious creation, not dictated, like loba e.g. -- but it is part of her poetics. and so in bolano's novels, i find an imaginative world where poetry = revolution = poetry. i find the same world being gestured towards in the FD -- there's a part of me that wanted more -- wanted che guevara and wilfred owen and lao tzu -- but that would probably make it a pomo cantos and ruin the whole thing

david.chirot@... said

at 5:48 am on Dec 23, 2010

read also Muzzlewatch--for which work also-bills before Congress to
punish such as i no joke-it is a mockery and insult of those who do
the long, hard, real, attacked, outside, alone work for Gaza
Guantanamo, much else that ridiculing fellow aco-avants is equated
with self heroicizaion as "Greek anarchists"--event one of the FC has
attacked my support for Gaza it's a sad reflection of what the USA
does daily--contempt & exploitation, ignorance & isolationism--self
righteous "saving the world"--

here are some links which may be of interest (re bolano see the Kaurab piece)

http://davidbaptistechirot.blogspot.com
http://poemsandpoetics.blogspot.com/2009/09/david-baptiste-chirot-felix-feneon.html
Wednesday, September 23, 2009
David-Baptiste Chirot: Félix Fénéon, Conceptual Poetry, & the Animated Other

Death from this Window/Doors of Guantanamo
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chirotzer0/sets/72157618302466170/

Slide Show--188 images
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chirotzer0/sets/72157618302466170/show/
David-Baptiste Chirot: "Waterboarding & Poetry"
Wordforword #13 Spring 2008
(also has Visual Poetry by chirot)
Kaurab Translation Site
Poems from Guantánamo
The Detainees Speak
David Baptite Chirot
KAURAB Online :: A Bengali Poetry Webzine :: Translation Site
Isolation is the condition from which and into which the Guantanamo
poets .... David Baptiste Chirot is an amazing litterateur, artist,
reader and critic. ...
www.kaurab.com/english/books/guantanamo.html

Chris Daniels said

at 7:42 pm on Dec 22, 2010

poetry can change the way we think...

david.chirot@... said

at 5:55 am on Dec 23, 2010


sorry this was to precde what just sent-
keep trying to write real responses but everything gets choked by the character count-
for me as for feneon no separtion between action/art/poetry-
i know its my extreme pehyscial pain causing me sorrow, trouble (broekn back) but often feel outsider to the "scene" here
is very difficult to coney; hopefully m visual and written works will-
just feel very saddnened

am writing an extensive response which I will post at my blog--in part
so people see what is going on there for years now-
also so i won't have to keep breaking up what i write due to character count
for me, as for feneon, no separation between poetry/art/activism since
1969 Paris anarchist cell blowing up american sites & empty police
vans to now--activism for Gaza, American Indian groups & daily work
here with addict/alcoholic/criminals like myself
a long time admirer/reviewer of kent & his work; this whole project &
responses deeply sadden me--the work of myself & others worldwide
continues outside, ignored, hidden in plain site/sight/cite while one
finds selfaggrandizement, self parody, ridicule masquerading as
subversive of the very things being mirrored--aco-avant insularity,
circularity-will write at length to explain meanwhile these may be of
interest

micahjrobbins@gmail.com said

at 3:43 pm on Dec 23, 2010

What exactly about the responses in this list makes you so sad?

Austin Smith said

at 7:06 am on Dec 23, 2010

Austin Smith said

at 7:18 am on Dec 23, 2010

Just a random thought related to some reading I was doing last night. I was reading the exchange between Merwin and Auden regarding Merwin's decision to request that the Pulitzer Prize committee donate the prize money on his behalf to the Draft Resistance and to Alan Blanchard, a painter blinded by a police weapon. Auden wrote in claiming that what Merwin was doing was a publicity stunt the aim of which was self-aggrandizement, and that if he wanted to donate the money he could have done so privately. Auden also claimed that if Merwin believed what he said in his first letter ("I am too conscious of being an American to accept public congratulation with good grace, or to welcome it except as an occasion for expressing openly a shame which many Americans feel, day after day, helplessly and in silence."), by this logic he should not publish poems in America. I found all this very interesting in light of the fact that Merwin has now "accepted public congratulation" as poet laureate. I don't think he would have accepted the post under Bush, but is there really any difference in the political situation under Obama? It also makes me think of the Poets Against the War anthology, which began in protest but now, it seems to me, has been sort of placed in the same remaindered realm of BAP. I wouldn't say that you can't write protest poetry anymore (I don't want to believe it if it's true), but I think that the strategies that the Yasusada project and the FC employ are ingenious ways to get around being called out by Auden (whether rightly or not) or marginalized as just another liberal knee-jerk reaction.

Edmond Caldwell said

at 3:23 pm on Dec 23, 2010

My favorite example of such an act is John Berger's when he was awarded the Booker Prize in the early 70s for his novel "G." His acceptance speech was a denunciation of the Booker-McConnell corporation, the bulk of whose assets had come from many decades of exploiting the coerced labor of black workers on sugar plantations in British Guyana. Berger then announced that he was donating half of the prize money to the UK version of the Black Panthers and using the other half to finance his subsequent project, "A 7th Man," a book-length essay on migrant laborers in Europe with photos by Jean Mohr.

To me, this is exemplary -- much better than if Berger had simply renounced the award (i.e., the sort of disavowal of which the reductio ad absurdum would be Auden's recommended 'no longer publishing poems in America' in the case you cite, Austin). It's using a system's own contradictions against it. Of course, there is always the attendant danger that the radical act will be "recuperated," folded back into the thing it once purported to challenge, as well as the danger that the radical actor will one day "sell out" and accept official awards and sanctions. But is it inevitable? Merwin became laureate; Berger, though -- as far as I know, anyway -- has managed to remain more or less uncompromised.

Chris Daniels said

at 12:37 pm on Dec 23, 2010

back to Pessoa's HETERONYMY

as i mention above, Fernando Pessoa created a number of authors who are reflections or refractions of himself - not pseudonymic "false names", but heteronymic "different names"

FP once said: "i created my coterie around me" - or was it "within me"?

this allowed him to write in any style, on any subject, whatever he felt like in the moment

along with the heteronyms, he also created the ORTHONYMS - authors named Fernando Pessoa, none of whom are really Pessoa-himself ("Pessoa-si-mesmo" is a very common critical term)

FP was very interested in technical virtuosity, which he certainly achieved

the orthonymic poetry (about 1000 pages of it) is stylistically varied: symbolism in the manner of Verlaine, a series of darkly mystical Rosicrucian sonnets, quasi-futurist, highly cinematic free verse full of jump cuts and superimpositions, etc.

as a result, it is impossible to identify the "real" Pessoa, which, it seems to me, was the whole point

Chris Daniels said

at 1:44 pm on Dec 23, 2010

heteronymy/orthonymy can be seen as a hoax, an attempt to confuse, to hoodwink - and there is something of the practical joke about this literary game which invites the reader to play along or refuse to play along - but, while i am not always comfortable within the game, my long familiarity with and love of Pessoa's life and work allows me to accept it without confusion

in The Miseries of Poetry, the Yasusada/Motokiyu/Alvarez/Johnson Papers, Lyric Poetry After Auschwitz, Epigrammititis, orthonymic and hetonymic entities appear in the world as authors, editors, lovers, friends, enthusiasts, collaborators and so on - in the Faits Divers, they are an anonymous collective

because i am so willing to play the game, i will not write a certain name which we all know, but in all the above works, in this multifarious and growing series of persona (greek via latin: masks), the orthonyms, are ridiculed, at times with real cruelty

the author of these works, whoever that may be, is not only a satirist (as has been pointed out ad nauseam), but is also a self-satirist (as has not been pointed out very much, if at all, to my knowledge)

one of the aims is to encourage the reader to question everything we take for granted about literature, like authorship, authenticity, sincerity - and you can go as far as you like with this

Chris Daniels said

at 2:40 pm on Dec 24, 2010

maybe we can say that art, politics and science, are ways of cognizing the world, and that all these systems of cognition can exist together and inform each other, somehow and some way, in an artist's work?

david.chirot@... said

at 8:02 pm on Dec 25, 2010

Dear Micah:

I am writing to apologize to you and the group for the above behaviors which are a disservice to myself and to the group and discussion. I misread a number of posts very badly and and replied in an unthinking fashion, both very uncharacteristic of my usual work and methods. In particular I again want to apologize to Brooks--which I have done back channel--and to all for allowing my own personal problems to obscure my judgment, thinking and replies, for allowing emotions to obscure intellect to such an extreme degree. I have a badly broken back (already been broken 3 times before) and in the last month it took a drastic turn for the worse, a doctor who was to operate withdrew at the last moment, smashing hopes of a year, my medication was greatly increased, and al of this I allowed to overwhelm by emotions and thoughts, my replies to the group.

david.chirot@... said

at 8:02 pm on Dec 25, 2010

(2nd part of my reply)
My intention is to go back and read everything thoroughly and reply with useful & constructive commentary --I felt at first I was doing so, before another section of my back was broken two weeks ago-and I lost track of what I was trying to contribute in a positive manner. I plan to go back over everything, pick back up with what had begun with as well as think through and respond conscientiously and in any helpful way that I can, making sure not to misread and misunderstand things written by others.
I m not using my medical condition as an excuse; it's a simple statement of fact. Some days I can't even si tat the computer & on top of the ever worsening pain there is the adjusting to super octane medication to deal with.Between the extreme pain and extreme meds, it's all too easy for one's emotions and thoughts to become far more distorted than one has any idea is happening. I fell I've received a good wake up call from my own conscience and from others, and thanks for allowing me to know what has been happening.
Again, I apologize to everyone in the group and will start over and plan to contribute in as thoughtful and useful way as I can.
Thank you to Brooks and to you also and again, I humbly apologize to the group for causing things to happen which are against my own better sense of my self and my conscience.
all my very best for the Holidays-and-
--onwo/ards ever, david baptiste chirot

gtanta@gmail.com said

at 11:42 am on Dec 28, 2010

Hi, fellow harem members,

Wrong door? What do you mean there are no women here? Is it because I’m so frightfully late to the signage party? I’m sorry but please stop hiding the women. If feminism is a social category about which we can make passing gestures of concern, we’re ok guys, since it seems to me, that Chris is right and we and the W&D “aims … to encourage the reader to question everything we take for granted about literature, like authorship, authenticity, sincerity.” We’re “ok” because we’re aligned with the deconstructive work and effects of some feminisms and queer theories. However, if feminism depends on biography or identity as a category, then the ethical waters are boiling because we’re talking about difference with no women around.

I’ve loved most of the writing I’ve read: so lucid and informed and pointed. In an attempt to be of some use, I offer the following antinomies with hopes of a Walter Benjamin sort of dialectical progress:

action (deeds) words (thought)
engagement ambivalence
clarity (modern or a-g manifesto) ambiguity (postmodern irony)
Gossip Science
Witness Editor
Poet (maker, conspirator, tacit legislator) Agent (performer or actor or representative)
Female (biological) Female (social construction)
Female (victim of patriarchy) Male (proponent of patriarchy)
Direct action (café bomb) Indirect action (form consciousness)
Personal attack (ad hominem) Professional attack (rhetorical, dialogical, discursive, Victorian, well-heeled)
Satire Irony
“real” “fiction”
Heteronym Biographical fact (with a willing suspension of disbelief in a sterile or hermetic mimeses and the presence/absence of form)
Author Author function
Death of the author Life of the author
Ideological dupe Culture jammer
Anarchist (doing) Marxist (doing theory)
Authenticity Fraud
Skeptic (empathy) Cynic (apathy)

brooksjohnson22 said

at 2:10 pm on Dec 29, 2010

I'd also like to second M. Tanta's question. Where are the women? A great collection of minds here but it is a bit weird, no? I guess we are pretty far into the conversation and that at this point, asking women to join the group would amount to somewhat of a token gesture. That is to say, ideally there wld have been plenty of female voices present from the get go but it would be a step in the right direction both for this group and for future discussion/action groups that might come out of this. Simply said, conversations (especially ones of this nature, where we are trying to get at the root of the relationship(s) between poetics and political situations--both present and historical; and also ways in which we could imagine a poetics that demonstrates solidarity with the oppressed) are incomplete when composed entirely of masculine voices/minds.

gtanta@gmail.com said

at 11:42 am on Dec 28, 2010

Above all else, or beneath all else for those underground, let’s not forget that contemporary global capital needs our critical and inventive interventions so that it can know itself and keep propagating versions of itself. Like the a-g needed its kitsch, the industrial military complex needs its revolutionary poets. I am participating because I am a skeptic, not a cynic.

Freind@rowan.edu said

at 7:32 am on Dec 29, 2010

I assume this is tongue-in-cheek, but even if that's the case, I think it's selecting the wrong target. I think the industrial military complex is less of a problem than what Benjamin Barber calls the infotainment telesector. KBR, Blackwater and Boeing are enabled by CNN, Viacom, MSNBC, etc. I'm not just talking about "bias," or the innate pro-government slant of many news sources; I'm talking about a complete erasing of the line between news and entertainment. Ironically, or perhaps logically, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have been some of the most insightful critics of that tendency.

On a slightly different note, here's Eliot Weinberger writing about Bush's memoir and raising issues that are similar to what we've discussed here:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n01/eliot-weinberger/damn-right-i-said

John said

at 11:22 am on Dec 29, 2010

Thanks for the link to Weinberger's article. Weinberger points to something I've been thinking about: That Kent's inquiries into multiple authorship reveal the 19th-century status of "the poet." Multiple, anonymous, and pseudonymous authorship is a complete commonplace in the rest of culture, from Hollywood movies and television, to popular music and jazz, to the editing of fiction, to the fictionalized memoirs of presidents. In no other sector of culture is the question even considered noteworthy, nor would it have been considered noteworthy in eras preceding the Romantic.

gtanta@gmail.com said

at 12:19 pm on Dec 29, 2010

This part is not tongue-in-cheek. Yes, where is the propaganda machine for the Left? Some outcast jokers with Foucault sticking out of their ears? Effective protest is not allowed. It does not exist: everything must be subsumed and used in the economy of knowledge. It goes as far back as the fictional divide between the mind and the body or Plato’s ideal forms and his appropriation of that son of a slave and illiterate, Socrates.

Thanks for the link. These questions are terrific: ‘Who really spoke? Is it really he and not someone else? With what authenticity or originality? And what part of his deepest self did he express in his discourse?’ (Weinberger)

Check out how Jon Stewart is part of the cultural industry distracting us from the real benethe the real: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeaXp2WCD-w

brooksjohnson22 said

at 1:19 pm on Dec 29, 2010

Thanks for posting that Weinberger article. His humor is about the only way that such horrifying memories of the bush years can be digestible. I also think that yr pretty right on in pointing out the emergence of the entertainment apparatus, and it’s incorporation of ‘the news’ as a new hydra head of power. This development, which has been happening over the past decade at least and has seen a recent dramatic acceleration post-9-11 is worrisome indeed and ought not be ignored. It is more insidious than power’s more obvious manifestations (military/industry/the law) because people have largely ‘elected’ this form of all-pervasive anesthetization and domination. One could go on…However, I do think it’s a bit wrong-headed to say that the military industrial complex is the wrong target. Untill cnn and fox news viewers and pundits are the ones piloting the drones, I think that the military-industrial apparatus is still of much concern. Don’t misunderstand me. The above tongue in cheek remark isn’t so far off the controls for that above mentioned drones are based on the configuration of x-box controllers. I agree, its fucking scary, but so is the wholesale slaughter of innocents (and insurgents for that matter) and the industry make the weapons. What I’m saying here, though, is that one is not a ¬bigger problem than the other it is a gorgon knot. Not that one can simply slice it in twain like Alexander the jock—indeed, we ought to understand its contours thoroughly and how these apparatuses relate to one another in order to better combat it but its essential not to dismiss the fuckers that are doing the work on the ground—the actual murder over the psychological, largely domestic, forms of domination.

brooksjohnson22 said

at 1:48 pm on Dec 29, 2010

Gosh, I should have proof read that last post. Sorry about that. Hopefully the meaning comes through. I particularly liked the paragraph in Weinberger’s review where he draws a parallel between Junior’s ( more accurately, his ghost writer’s) prose styling and those of Goldsmith and Tao Lin. I remember reading Silliman’s review of shoplifting from banana republic (or whatever that book was called) and being overwhelmed with a wave of nausea at his insinuation that this book is somehow representative of my generation—and not only that, but that the spoiled, decadent, detached attitude on Lin’s book were put in a fairly positive (if a bit patronizing) light. If I remember correctly, Silliman predictably alluded to Lin and his employment of the flat detached surface of his prose as an inheritor of the langpo/pomo tradition. On this point I did not entirely disagree with him. Both Lin and the langpo academy ‘don’t quite get it’ in similar ways. M. Silliman’s glowing review of this book was, I think, a very sad attempt on his part to show that he’s ‘with it’ or something wherein he demonstrates both his total ignorance of youth culture (at least that which I’m involved in—many of us are becoming wobblies, for example) and his nihilistic take on the present situation all in the form of a gladhandjob for Tao Lin (perhaps the sort of cold “architectural” lovin’ that M Silliman alludes to) and more advertisement for Amerikan Apparrel. I know this review was written a year and a half ago but I’ve been holding on to that rant ever since. http://ronsilliman.blogspot.com/2009/11/it-would-be-easy-but-wrong-to-misread.html

Patrick Herron said

at 9:55 am on Jan 28, 2011

Military industrial complex+infotainment telesector=? My daily academic collaborator, Tim Lenoir, calls it the "military entertainment complex." Source: http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/con/summary/v008/8.3lenoir.html Paper: http://www.stanford.edu/class/sts145/Library/Lenoir-Lowood_TheatersOfWar.pdf And the BBC's infotainment coverage of Lenoir's concept: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00qps1j (audio available upon reqest)

nicholasiainmanning@... said

at 2:37 pm on Dec 29, 2010

Apologies if this is not a shared opinion, and of course we're not obliged to, but: how and why did discussion of Fénéon become a discussion of media blindness and the industrial military complex? I agree these are crucial issues, but the slippage in the dialectic here seems revelatory. More bluntly: I don't think Works and Days is about the military industrial complex. Putting to one side the fact that the MIC is a vital and necessary subject, I'm puzzled as to why discussion regarding a work which, to my eyes at least, primarily satirizes literary coteries and their quotidian aims and teleologies, is being thusframed.

Is anyone making the mistake of believing that a criticism of literary group social dynamics constitutes an act of generalized media and political dissidence? This is a question which seems important to me.

Fénéon is fascinating for what it is, not for the extrapolations we may attribute to it.

Yes there is the typical "Joshua blogging about pop music instead of war", which we've come to know from Kent of course in a specific satirical lineage, but I don't feel the macroscopic global perspective dominates the microscopic social coterie perspective here. Rather the other way around.

In summary, I'm not saying we're getting "off track", I'd just like to know if I'm on the same track as everyone else.

Also, I second the notion that the absence of women is, shall we say, problematic, even rather creepy. Who was invited? This really has got to be fixed.

Love to all from Avignon,

brooksjohnson22 said

at 5:19 pm on Dec 29, 2010

As one who has gone on a few tares about the larger political context of all of this, I feel like I should speak to this (though, obviously, I can’t speak for anyone else present). Insofar as the historical context of Works and Days is concerned, it is impossible (or maybe sort of missing the point) to attempt to separate the contemporary FD’s from Felix Feneon’s anarchist, deeply political practice. And further, that the fictive ‘back story’ of the collective is composed of these shadowy sort of poet-terrorist figures. I guess that I would sharply differ with you when you say “Fénéon is fascinating for what it is, not for the extrapolations we may attribute to it.” To me, if this work were simply about illustrating gossip and intrigue and social dynamics within the microscopic world of avantish poetry, it would be perhaps a fun and entertaining read but wouldn’t really mean much ultimately (again, just speaking personally here) It would be pretty boring, for example, if Feneon were not invoked, if there were no gestures towards anonymity or heteronymity, . This book works as well as it does (i.e. inspires/agitates) precisely because it points us poets towards a more macroscopic view of what we are even doing in to first place. The picture that is painted of the ‘microscopic social coterie’ is satirical to the ends of demonstrating how absolutely laughable these rather petty squabbles and delusions of literary grandure are in the face of the global perpetration of war, torture, domination, etc by…you guessed it! The military industrial complex. (to over simplify a bit, admittedly) But nonetheless, I'd argue that it's a fairly relevant and logical issue for the discussion to touch upon.

brooksjohnson22 said

at 5:19 pm on Dec 29, 2010

The F.D’s are rife with allusions to a larger socio-political context: numerous allusions to Gaza, the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan, white phosphorus, collateral damage, dismembered children with Arabic names, on and on. Perhaps yr right in saying that this work in and of itself doesn’t constitute an act of dissidence (though I might argue that as well) but it certainly is interesting that it has incited a discussion that can’t seem to help itself in drifting towards talk of what might constitute an actual dissident poetics.

Patrick Herron said

at 10:27 am on Jan 28, 2011

I don't think it is quite right to equate terrorism with revolution. Terrorism is powerless frustration lashing out at other locations of powerlessness. Terrorism strengthens counter-revolution. Terrorism kills babies because it can't do anything else. Terrorists call themselves revolutionaries. Revolutionaries are called terrorists by the global corporate machineries. The nomadic lines cut by terrorism allows the global corporate state to reterritorialize and gather more ground. The evidence is all around us. The state not only supports terrorism--it creates terrorism and funds terrorism and delivers its image. And its image equates the desire to feed the multitude with a threat to the right to live outside of the constant threat of annihilation. Neither terrorism nor revolution are romantic nor should they be made to sound that way. Both must be considered along the axis of compulsion, though perhaps on opposite ends. Terror is the global corporate state rearranging your face, rearranging you with its terrible spectacle, a phenomenon every bit as material and real as a wound to the body.

Michael Theune said

at 11:53 am on Jan 30, 2011

Gossip. Police report. Slapstick. Satire. The work of the Feneon Collective, of course, is all of these. I'd like to add another gnere: wedding announcement. So many of the entries reveal the strange marriages (or, at least, trysts, affairs) that have occurred in contemporary American poetry: Wiman and Mlinko; Zapruder and Gioia (perhaps); Jack Spicer and Poetry; Silliman and Project Runway; etc. Though there may be "no panopticonic gaze" in contemporary poetry, there certainly has been an effort to marry what once were disparate aspects of American poetry: hybrid poetry, which sought to unite the experimental avant-garde and a more traditional (and often formal) mainstream. This marriage was consummated in the publication of American Hybrid, edited by Swensen and St. John. Though the poetry gathered in this anthology is meant to be, according to its editors, a "thriving center of alterity," the supposed unity of the hybrid omits a great deal: the politically urgent and relevant, and the blatantly comic. The (swarming, fecund) work of the Feneon Collective posits another kind of "thriving center of alterity," one that attempts to decenter and destablize the institutionally-sanctioned hybrid, which is based upon, as Keith Tuma (quoting Nicolas Bourriaud) has recently pointed out in the Chicago Review, "an aesthetic 'courtesy' that 'consists of refusing to pass critical judgment for fear of ruffling the sensitivity of the other.'" The Feneon Collective points directly at this state of affairs: "Where does poetry stop and sociology begin (or vice versa)? With the figure on its cover of two silhouettes forming a vase (or vice versa), the anthology title American Hybrid has appeared."

Patrick Herron said

at 9:35 am on Jan 31, 2011

No panoptic gaze? You're missing how poets generally deploy pronouns, particularly "I" and "you," then. While people craft clever essays comparing and contrasting Language poets with Flarfists and New Sincerists along the lines of subject and identity no one ever captures the memetic levels of pronomial function, function which has a peculiar propagandistic function. While the Language Poets have the better sense of this out of the three aforementioned groups, the Language Poets insist on heaping to their names the very functions they hope to diminish in their poetics, a point Kent and I have both railed on from time to time.

I love the comments regarding "thriving center of alterity." To make an analogy, I like when the game physics in alternative video games stop trying to mimic the physics of the real world; only when the physics are broken and reassembled in a completely unworldly way do they begin to reveal at once the banality of the way things are (enforced) and the possibilities of invention.

When you mention the American Hybrid I feel as if I need a bath.

Gossip. Police report. Slapstick. Satire. Yes! Wedding announcements! Love it! Obituaries too! Classified ads? And there are programmatic ways of collecting many of these things. I've got some serious power tools for that sort of work.

Michael Theune said

at 12:18 pm on Jan 30, 2011

Aden (in heaven): your Book of Faces research gives me this idea: that the Feneon Collective's entries are contemporary American poetry's status updates, with this caveat: whereas most status updates often are designed to put the updater in a positive light, or to conceal or cover-up, the Feneon Collective's updates are intended to reveal and uncover... Maybe: Twofacedbook. Or: Canyoufacethisbook. Or: Fauxcebook.

Patrick Herron said

at 9:36 am on Jan 31, 2011

Admittedly it appears as if I am late for the ball. Late for the ball, and can't find my name tag, because in the haste I've forgotten my name.

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